Who is the real life Howard Roark and John Galt?

A former member
Posted Jul 4, 2005 5:18 AM
Mumbai, IN
Post #: 2
Ayn's entire purpose in writing philosophy was to prove the existence of the highest man.So if you use rationality against the
existence of pro,ram and kris then you are using ayn against ayn!
And contradictions will obviously not work!smile
A former member
Posted Jul 4, 2005 5:29 AM
Mumbai, IN
Post #: 3
Jesus knew about Krishna.It seems at the young age of 18 he had come to India and had spent at least 18 years in Tibet and India
where he studied under the Indian yogies.And I also remember reading about the 12
missing years of Jesus in his later life which had been traced as being the years
he spent again in India by some german or french scholar which was mentioned in the papers a year ago.Jesus came across
the story of Ram and Krishna and guessed that the rebirth of
Krishna was to happen around 2000AD.[We all have heard about
the prediction of the birth of anti-christ in 2000AD.]
Jesus went on to invent his philosophy based on sacrifice and
service which has dominated this world for the last 2000 years
[Altruism,communism and socialism being the end product of his
philosophy as explained by AR in Atlas Shrugged.]
Looks like the smart boy prepared a world which was completely
unsuitable for the rebirth of krishna!Mohamed wanted a philosophy
which was superior to that of Jesus!It was under his sanction-
the black veils.Nobody should see their beautiful faces,you see!

The Bible actually contains a prediction that a time will come when
everybody from the past,present and future will be living at the same time.One of my friend told me that such a similar statement is
present in an ancient Indian text where everybody will come together
and a blissful state of existence will be achieved on this earth!

Ayn came along and gave the complete answer to the question
what is life in Atlas Shrugged.But she did not grasp this final blissful
state of existence.Hence the depression which she had!

Anyway,Socialism will go away in the next 50 years.
And Lassiez-faire Capitalism will benefit Krishna and Ayn Rand and
everybody else!laughing

Edited by Krisrampro on Jul 6, 2005 5:58 AM

A former member
Posted Jul 4, 2005 5:47 AM
Mumbai, IN
Post #: 4
But observe that we are living in a world where the Law of Identity
is not yet acknowledged or is just beginning to be..smile
So what will happen to the great souls if they are born today!
I read about the rebirth of Buddha to some couple in the papers
some time ago.It seems that the boy had some birthmarks similar
to that which Buddha had!He showed excessive intelligence and
had mastered nuclear physics by the age of ten.He said that he had
discovered that the number pi inmathematics has a decimal
equivalent and is not a recurring number.We haven't heard from
him since but see that is what the modern buddha is doing.He is not
talking about desires as being evil or worrying about the endless
life cycles and rebirths!So what will jesus and mohamed do?
Read Ayn Rand even before they read anyhting else!
And Krishna?
Blogging on the aynrand.meetup.com about things which Ayn Rand did not discover within her lifetime!laughing
A former member
Posted Jul 4, 2005 6:03 AM
Mumbai, IN
Post #: 5
AR has become very famous in just the last 50 years.Her philosophy of reason has negated the philosophy of the entire
mankind during the past recorded history of 3000 years or so.
One woman who is right and everybody else is wrong!
Krishna spent a lot of time in the gardens with women 5 K
years ago.It seems to have had the effect!An Ayn Rand arose
from Russia and presented the world with the Fountainhead and
Atlas Shrugged just before 2000AD!So Krishna can sit back at home
and do nothing!
For the first time in mankind's history [recorded or otherwise]
it looks as if existence has been stopped completely.Nothing great
or exciting is happening nowadays!Where are the geniuses doing
wonderful things?The last great invention of man is the computer
and has anything happened since then?
It is one of the indicator of the fact that the world population
is approaching the maximum number of unique individuals [everything gets flattened at the saturation level,you see!].
No need to worry about losing people anymore!They will always
remain here from now onwards!So Galt's vow has come true -
'I will put an end to all of this,once and for all.I will stop the motor
of this world.'
Well, the world's motor does look as if it has been stopped.
But more importantly,it does look as if the world has been saved
from the destroyers once and for all!
What did Nostradamous from France say about the world around 2000AD?laughing

Edited by Krisrampro on Jul 4, 2005 7:44 AM

A former member
Posted Jul 8, 2005 5:07 AM
Mumbai, IN
Post #: 15
Kiran - the answer to the original question is

YOU ARE!smile
A former member
Posted Jul 8, 2005 5:09 AM
Mumbai, IN
Post #: 16
kiran - please do read the Autobiography of a yogi
by Paramahansa Yogananda.smile
A former member
Posted Jul 8, 2005 5:11 AM
Mumbai, IN
Post #: 17
Kiran - the answer to the original question is

YOU ARE!smile

I made the conncetion between Prometheus,Ram,Krishna,
Aristotle and Ayn Rand at the age of 26 by which time my mind had
become calm and light,you see!laughing
A former member
Posted Jul 8, 2005 5:16 AM
Mumbai, IN
Post #: 18
Kiran says that the Vedas has the complete answers to all the
qestions of life!
So I say that - I am certain that the Vedas and all the other holy books like Bible and others would have some sound principles
in thembut one can also find some flaws in them.And the complete
answer to the question what is life is given in Atlas Shrugged
alone.And it is their in the life of Krishna and nowhere else!smile
A former member
Posted Jul 10, 2005 10:26 AM
Mumbai, IN
Post #: 21
Kiran -
Hi guys,
The discussion on this topic is bit far too long for
me to read patiently,I just wanted to reply to murugan's rejoinder:

ha ha ! your mind became calm and light ?thats good to hear...
the age of course, earlier the better...

i come from a terribly orthodox hindu family and went through
so much trauma that i am now a psychatric patient...

thats whi perhaps i am a bit steamed up when i seeyoung blood
looking OUTSIDE of themselves for a god-like figure of admiration
or authority or both...

it worked extremely destructively in my life for decades before
i got hold of ayn rand... Jesus said,'They'll say to you ,look here !
look there ! but go not thither for the kingdom of God lies within you'

... yet we have FOLLOWERS everywhere and quite rarely independant thinkers.

be irreverent,its psychologically healthy.

take inspiration from others,but don't be hypnotised or carried
away ... even by ayn rand herself ....friends, i have been there.
i know.

aapo deepo bhavaorbe a light unto thyself said the Buddha
but millions FOLLOW Gautama Buddha and make images of him ...
its funny sad.in my life it was a nightmare.hence the anguish.
consider a old man's advice !
shubham !
smile
A former member
Posted Jul 11, 2005 5:24 AM
Mumbai, IN
Post #: 22
Hello,
There are a few thousand or of all the previous births memories of ours locked in our subconscioussness, which we
see in our night dreams.They refer to our past with the same people in similar situations as our present lifetime!But we should not let these dreams guide our life because though the people involved are the same the situations are not exactly the same!
Our actions should always be guided by reason and the law that
A is A alone!You treat a person according to his identity and nature
and not against it!

The Vedas contain the description of the Big bang theory
[the universe is born in a violent explosion,and then expands and
then contracts and the process is repeated for ad infinitum.],
though this theory was discovered and evidence gathered for it
only in the last century!Nostradamous saw dinosaurs flying through
the air,the man from south India saving the world in 2000AD etc.
[All these are insights gained from their night dreams,I suppose!]smile

When we meet some person or visit a place or any experiecnce
which leaves a deep impression on our minds,they are stored as
memories in our subconscioussness to be recalled later.
These memories might get imprinted in our genes [modify them,
the ones which determine our unique brain content and conscioussness.] This might easily explain memories from previous
births,like the immediate rebirth cases in the same span of the universe.But the fact that most of our memories are from
past universes[same people,same circumstances] implies that our genes or more appropraitely our soul [which determine our unique conscioussness] are preserved all the time; including the time
when the whole universe is compressed in a singular point
holding all the matter and energy before the Big bang explosion!
Krishna said this 5000 years ago[it is also present in the vedas]
that our identity or our soul once made by nature never gets
destroyed and is preserved and its existence is eternal.
This statement is according to observed facts of reality.That
seems to be the only rational explanation possible for our ability
to recall memories from past universes!Otherwise there can be no connections possible for us whatsover with the past universes.

Our unique identity or soul at some very basic and fundamental level is preserved all the time once it was made for the first time from the inanimate matter by the nature.

Possible conceptual explanations - Existence Exists,the basic
axiom and the law of Identity - A is A.

So A is A and it will always remain A for the rest of eternity!These are simple observed facts of reality.smile

Edited by Krisrampro on Jul 11, 2005 5:51 AM

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